In the present day’s friends, multi-platinum nation star Hunter Hayes and drummer Jen Ledger from the Christian supergroup Skillet, have battled with darkish emotions of inadequacy and nervousness. They’ve every discovered hope by means of these emotions by remembering how God views them. Hunter Hayes is a five-time GRAMMY nominee and one of many youngest solo male artists to high the Scorching Nation Songs chart. Hunter discusses how he grew right into a singer/songwriter and the way he works out the solutions to exhausting questions by means of his songs, like his newest single “Pricey God.” Hunter is candid about his insecurities; regardless of his monumental success at such a younger age, he offers with emotions of not being adequate. During the last ten years, Jen Ledger has been the drummer for Skillet as they’ve been nominated for GRAMMYs and performed dwell for a whole lot of hundreds of individuals everywhere in the world. Jen trusted God as He opened doorways for her profession, even when she didn’t imagine in herself. Now she is releasing her first solo document that includes a very private tune referred to as “Not Useless But” that Jen describes as a tune borne from a time when struggled with and battled inside concern and nervousness.
You Are Good Sufficient: Hunter Hayes and Jen Ledger Discover Their Worth In Christ – Jesus Calling Episode #108
Narrator: Welcome to the Jesus Calling Podcast. Our visitor at present is five-time GRAMMY nominee and multi-platinum-selling nation star Hunter Hayes. Hunter was the youngest solo male artist to high the Scorching Nation Songs chart in 2012. He performs greater than 30 devices and has been writing his personal songs since junior excessive. Hunter discusses his path as a singer/songwriter, the exhausting questions he asks God by means of his music, and the way, regardless of his monumental success at such a younger age, he offers with emotions of not being adequate.
Hunter Hayes: My title is Hunter Hayes. I’m a 26-year-old music nerd. And, yeah, only a man who likes to create music and make noise. And I’ve been dwelling right here in Nashville for about ten years now, which is nuts. I moved to my dream metropolis, after which I get to do my dream job.
I began making noise once I was round 4. My grandmother gave me a toy accordion once I was two, I believe. I don’t keep in mind, clearly. I’ve heard the story sufficient occasions that I can sort of recite it. However she gave me her accordion once I was two, and I simply began taking it in every single place. My dad truly purchased a number of extras to repair the one which I had that I wouldn’t let go of. And each time I’d break it, he’d pull elements off one other one. There’s nonetheless sort of like a group within the storage again house.
However, yeah, began with accordion after which it was drums, after which it was electrical guitar, after which that was sort of it after that. I used to be caught to the electrical guitar after that.
[I] discovered songwriting once I was in center college. Technically I wrote my first tune once I was six years previous, however don’t look that up. It’s a nasty thought.
Discovering God By Music
I discovered songwriting in center college, and I believe that was the perfect time to search out it as a result of I wanted it essentially the most then.
I believe we are able to all communicate to the truth that in center college, you want an outlet. You want a spot to go. And that’s truly in all probability the time in my life the place I used to be closest to the Bible, closest to my religion. I discovered it by means of the loneliness and thru the entire issues that I used to be going by means of. I used to be—I’m—a quiet, shy typically-to-myself-recluse solely youngster. And songwriting was sort of the one place that I may go to really feel secure.
“I’m—a quiet, shy typically-to-myself-recluse solely youngster. And songwriting was sort of the one place that I may go to really feel secure.” – Hunter Hayes
I believe that’s sort of what sort of slingshot me into what I do now—that center college period, you recognize. I really feel like loads of us undergo that these large life modifications these large emotional curler coasters. It introduced me right into a sort of the method that I’ve now, songwriting and whatnot.
I believe the primary document that modified my life—like, once I actually began finding out music, which was round like center college time—the primary observe that basically modified my life and awoke me was Mercy Me “Coming As much as Breathe.” I noticed them on the first Baptist Church in Lafayette with a pal of mine. I don’t know should you’ve heard that document, nevertheless it’s a really, it’s a left flip from “I Can Solely Think about,” which was three information earlier, which not lots of people notice. However that document was a really aggressive document. I wanted that document, although. I wanted the “Coming As much as Breathe” tune itself, and “Convey the Rain.”
However that document, it was so actually, like, so heavy and so intense that it pushed me away. And I had to search around for it. I needed to go and discover it and hearken to it and examine it.
Diving Deep into Religion
I went from a Catholic non-public college to a non-denominational non-public college. And rising up in a Catholic, comparatively conservative household, going to a non-denominational college was difficult as a result of I challenged my beliefs and my household’s beliefs, and it compelled me to search out my very own path and must assist it. I needed to clarify it effectively, not only for explanations sake, however when any person seems to be you within the eye and says, “Why do you imagine?” you need to reply it actually and you need to know, not simply imagine. You need to know.
I needed to dive into my religion. One thing I’d grown up with as an absolute was now a query mark, and I needed to reply my query myself.
I used to be not the cool child, I used to be the other. And I believe, actually, trying again, trying ahead, trying as much as all of the people who I look as much as, they weren’t the cool youngsters. The people who have actually modified the world and adjusted my life and influenced me the heaviest have been the quiet ones who discovered their path to their outlet and used their outlet in a robust manner and channeled all of the issues that they went by means of. I believe the quiet ones have essentially the most to say.
“The people who have actually modified the world and adjusted my life and influenced me the heaviest have been the quiet ones who discovered their path to their outlet and used their outlet in a robust manner and channeled all of the issues that they went by means of.” – Hunter Hayes
Pushing In opposition to Feeling Like You’re Not Good Sufficient
When folks ask, “Who do you need to sing to?” I need to sing to me. I need to discuss what I’m going by means of as a result of it’s not unique to artists. It’s not unique to performers. It’s my age group.
We’re getting out of faculty once we’re defining ourselves as human beings, making an attempt to outline ourselves in a world that is stuffed with spotlight reels and questioning whether or not we’re adequate.
So that you’re measuring your self by any person else’s filter, which is a harmful harmful weapon of a factor.
“Measuring your self by any person else’s filter is a harmful harmful weapon.” – Hunter Hayes
This sense of invisibility isn’t unique to youngsters. It lasts a lifetime, and it’s the upstream feeling of not adequate. It’s that voice inside your head that screams at you each day, at the least for me. It’s a steady factor.
“This sense of invisibility isn’t unique to youngsters. It lasts a lifetime, and it’s the upstream feeling of not adequate.” – Hunter Hayes
One among my favourite reveals I’ve ever had: three weeks in the past, Milwaukee Summerfest. This pavilion that I felt there was no manner we’re going to fill—we crammed it. Had the perfect present in my life. Find yourself again on the bus, we have fun for a minute, after which it’s proper again to that voice of, Did you do good? Did you do adequate? After which that defines you as a human the extra you hearken to it.
Remembering Whose You Are
Narrator: Hunter encourages others who additionally battle with ideas of not being adequate, or who cope with wounds of their lives as he reads a passage from the October 28th entry of Jesus Calling.
Don’t anticipate to be handled pretty on this life. Individuals will say and do hurtful issues to you, stuff you don’t deserve. When somebody mistreats you, attempt to view it as a possibility to develop in grace. See how shortly you possibly can forgive the one who has wounded you. Don’t be involved about setting the document straight. As a substitute of obsessing about different folks’s opinions of you, maintain your deal with Me. Finally it’s My view of you that counts.
As you focus on regarding Me, do not forget that I’ve shut you in My righteousness and holiness.
I see you attired in these radiant clothes, which I purchased for you with my blood. This additionally isn’t truthful; it’s pure reward. When others deal with you unfairly, do not forget that my methods with you might be a lot better than truthful. My methods are Peace and Love, which I poured out into your coronary heart by My Spirit.
It’s straightforward to get caught on truthful. Honest’s the one manner that we’ve been taught to justify issues, and the best way we’re handled, or the best way that we deal with ourselves. And the best way that we deal with ourselves isn’t truthful. We evaluate.
I imply, I believe the sermon that hit me many of the final like three years was comparability. We dwell by comparability. Comparability is the one manner we are able to measure. If we’re going to match ourselves, then we’re by no means going to succeed. We’ll by no means be what we actually need to be. Even when it’s the finest model of ourselves, our flawed selves that we evaluate ourselves with, we’ll by no means actually succeed.
Remembering God Doesn’t Mess Up
Narration: Hunter describes the trail he took to jot down his newest single, “Pricey God.”
Hunter Hayes: “Pricey God” threw me for a loop. “Pricey God” is just like the remedy session tape you don’t need folks to listen to. After which when folks hear it, abruptly I used to be fearful of that tune. I used to be happy with it, and fearful of it.
I began journaling on the airplane. I began with “Pricey World,” and I spotted I used to be writing to God. And I believed, “Pricey God.” That’s the title. I felt like that was the start of the dialog that I must have with Him.
So we have been three writers that had by no means written earlier than. I knew Andy, however Andy didn’t know Dave, I didn’t know Dave. So we have been sort of strangers in a room, diving into this this voice inside our heads saying we’re not adequate.
“We have been sort of strangers in a room, diving into this this voice inside our heads saying we’re not adequate.” – Hunter Hayes
And we’ve performed with totally different strains right here and there, and completed with “Pricey God, are you certain that you just don’t mess up?” And I used to be like, We will’t say that. That’s not allowed. That’s not okay. However I spotted it was necessary as a result of I don’t really feel prefer it’s a query. You’d ask until you recognize the reply. And I really feel like all of us sort of know the reply already, however we have to ask it to listen to it once more.
I really feel just like the Lord offers us large questions so He can reply in an enormous manner. And that’s an enormous query. And I really feel like typically He, no, I know that He’s answered me in an enormous manner many occasions—however not until I ask, not much less I search Him.
“I really feel just like the Lord offers us large questions so He can reply in an enormous manner.” – Hunter Hayes
And so I used to be fearful of a tune that didn’t have a resolve, and it doesn’t have a resolve all the best way to the tip. I made a decision to sing one take that stated, “Pricey God, simply remind me you don’t mess up,” to sort of shut the tune. And I felt higher it felt higher about it, about singing in public.
It’s a collection of powerful questions. I imagine you don’t go to your finest pal with powerful questions anticipating them to have the mistaken solutions. And I don’t really feel such as you go to God with these questions anticipating Him to not reply you.
I really feel like lots of people disassociate religion with a destructive query. And I believe these are the questions it is advisable ask to know your religion. I believe that’s necessary. it’s so crucial, and I do know that individuals typically really feel courageous sufficient to do it. However me, as a conservative Catholic child, my dad and I needed to have an extended dialog on the best way house from the primary time I performed that tune. And we had one other lengthy dialog about it not too long ago that lasted every week. However you recognize, I used to be simply explaining to him—and and sort of explaining to myself, I suppose, within the course of—how necessary that query is and the way necessary it’s to speak about these struggles as a way to get a solution, so that somebody can name from the darkish and shine a light-weight, you recognize?
Being Open to Who We’re Made to Be
Proper now, I’m on a kick of reminding folks of their self-worth. As a result of to query your self-worth, it’s to query your design and query your Maker. And I do know clearly I’ve completed that. I’ve completed that, and I’ve made it public in a tune. However I’ve made it public so that individuals can try this, in order that they’ll get a solution.
“To query your self-worth, it’s to query your design and query your Maker.” – Hunter Hayes
You have been made to be precisely who you might be, as exhausting as that’s to imagine, as exhausting as it’s for me to imagine proper now. My faults are what would make me. And I believe it’s necessary to remind folks of that. I believe it’s necessary for me to be reminded of that on a really constant foundation, that we have been made to be who we’re, no matter meaning.
That’s essentially the most validating factor on this planet as a songwriter, when any person comes when any person comes as much as you, a stranger, even like followers that I do know have tattooed lyrics from “Wild Blue” or “Inform Me” or “Pricey God” or “Invisible.” “Flashlight,” I’ve drawn flashlights as a result of folks need to reference that tune and people lyrics.
That’s essentially the most validating factor as a songwriter since you write all of the songs in a vacuum. After which they mainly simply sit there, and then you definitely lastly get to play the songs dwell. And you’ve got any person that wishes to ink themselves, to completely remind themselves of a lyric.
I really imagine nice songs aren’t one thing that we provide you with. We simply sort of obtain them. So hopefully you’re open. And I communicate typically that it’s not a effectively, it’s a river. And you need to simply be able to obtain the river. You need to simply be open to it. So when that occurs, I believe it’s only a reminder that, yeah, it’s not about me. It’s a few larger message, a few larger objective. And people are the moments the place you have been reminded you acquired it proper. You opened your self up. You made your weak, and also you spoke. And it reached. And it related.
So it’s sort of identical to, Okay, I’m doing my job. I’m serving my objective.
Hunter Believes in Giving Again
Narrator: Hunter has a coronary heart for utilizing his platform to lift consciousness for causes which might be necessary to him. Actually, Hunter holds the Guiness World File for the quantity of concert events performed in 24 hours, so he may elevate consciousness for ending childhood starvation. Hunter tells us why he feels it’s necessary to make use of his platform to assist others.
Hunter Hayes: I believe there’ll simply be seasons the place I may also help one one trigger greater than one other. And I’ll. I’ll do no matter I can.
You have got a microphone, you might have a accountability. You have got an viewers, you might have a accountability.
And if I’ve an viewers of individuals which might be listening, do good with it. Do good.
I’ve obtained an enormous viewers of attentive folks, individuals who will hear and reply. My followers aren’t followers, they’re folks with megaphones and beating hearts, and [they’re] very, very passionate human beings. They usually’ll unfold the phrase with me.
We’ve gotten to do some unimaginable issues with youngster starvation. And fast replace: [a few years ago] once I was talking about youngster starvation within the States, in our backyards, we have been speaking about one in 5 youngsters. We’re now speaking about one in 4 youngsters. So it’s much more necessary. We’ve completed some superior issues with youngster starvation, making folks conscious of that. We nonetheless haven’t mounted it, however we’re getting there and individuals are listening.
I imagine strongly in supporting our navy households as a result of they make an unimaginable sacrifice. My dad was within the navy. I’ve solely heard about it—he was out earlier than I used to be born—however I’ve heard tales. And even on a smaller scale of listening to a narrative, it impacted me. It nonetheless impacts me. And I see what they undergo, and it’s rather a lot, so I imagine in supporting them.
Following The Path To Your Goal
It’s nonetheless very a lot shocking to me that that is my job.
We have been all given a fingerprint. , none of us are actually similar. Even similar twins will be discerned by their dad and mom. So if even these two human beings have been created to be totally different, then our method needs to be totally different. Our method on ourselves, and our understanding on our design our construct has to start out with, It’s distinctive. You need to go by yourself path.
To me, that simply says overlook about measures. Begin new on the trail. Forge it. Discover it. Uncover and be adventurous. And discover your vacation spot—I imagine there isn’t a vacation spot, actually. I believe it’s simply discover your path. Observe your coronary heart. Your coronary heart will present you the trail.
On the finish of the day, I believe that’s what instilled in me. Observe your ardour, comply with your objective; since you have been constructed to do one thing. You have been made to do one thing necessary—do what issues to you.
Narrator: To seek out out extra about Hunter’s new tune “Pricey God,” please go to HunterHayes.com.
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Skillet’s Jen Ledger: “God desires to know me?”
Narrator: Our subsequent visitor is a member of the wildly common Christian band Skillet, and has been their drummer since she was 18 years previous. During the last ten years, Jen Ledger has performed with Skillet as they’ve been nominated for GRAMMYs, bought multi-platinum information, and performed dwell for a whole lot of hundreds of individuals everywhere in the world. Jen trusted God as He opened doorways for her profession, even when she didn’t imagine in herself. Now she is releasing her first solo document that includes a very private tune referred to as “Not Useless But” that Jen describes as a tune borne from a time when struggled with and battled inside concern and nervousness.
Jen: My title is Jen Ledger. A number of you may know me, or should you don’t know me, I play drums for the band Skillet. I joined the band about ten years in the past. In April, I launched my very own solo mission referred to as LEDGER, the place I’m singing. I’m writing my very own music for that additionally.
My story is sort of uncommon. I as you possibly can inform I’m not from America, I’m truly from England. I got here from a spot referred to as Coventry. It’s a small metropolis in the course of England. And I grew up there going to an Anglican, Church of England church. And I grew up with three siblings and my dad and mom. We sort of went to church, however actually, none of us actually lived the life with the influence of Jesus or the Gospel in an actual manner.
“We sort of went to church, however actually, none of us actually lived the life with the influence of Jesus or the Gospel in an actual manner.” – Jen Ledger
Should you’d have requested me again then, “Are you a Christian?” I’d have been like, “Completely, sure, born and raised.” It wasn’t till I moved to America once I was 16 years previous, and I mainly got here to do a factor referred to as the Faculty of Worship. It’s a small program for music and Bible examine in Kenosha, Wisconsin. And there’s solely, like, 14 folks a 12 months within the class. And I got here to do this, and that’s once I was born once more, like, stuffed with the spirit. It was actually such a life-changing 12 months for me.
I believe I’d by no means actually—it’s going to sound so silly—however you recognize when hear the tales and also you’re so overly accustomed to with Jesus. “He loves you, He died for you.” However then the distinction of, Oh, why is that necessary? What does that truly imply to me? It implies that I can truly know Him. He’s taken my place. It was like all the things grew to become actual to me for the primary time ever.
And my thoughts, it was blown that God would need to know me and I may dwell life figuring out Him. And I’d say it was once I was 16 years previous that I actually gave my life to God, and my relationship with Him modified drastically.
“And my thoughts, it was blown that God would need to know me and I may dwell life figuring out Him.” – Jen Ledger
And that was, like, the perfect 12 months of my life.
My drumming story is definitely sort of humorous as a result of, I used to be just a bit tomboy. I’ve two older brothers and one older sister, and my older brothers are twins. And I simply thought that they have been the best. I used to decorate like them. I used to do sports activities, I did soccer. Principally something my brothers have been doing, I’d copy them. And my brothers each began having drum classes. So certain sufficient, guess who wished to study the drums? Very a lot so, a quest to impress the large brothers.
However as I referred to earlier, once I came to visit to the Faculty of Worship once I was 16 years previous, I believe simply being an adolescent, you understand how we’re. We’ve got tons of insecurities come out, we’re not fairly certain who we need to be. And I got here on to the Faculty of Worship and it truly made me give up the drums all collectively, I’d grow to be so insecure. I used to be round different gamers that would just do extremely flashy stuff, and so they simply lived to get house and follow and examine new gear. And I it made me really feel like, Whoa. If that is what it means to be a drummer, then I’m clearly not a drummer. It actually shocked my confidence and made me assume, That is one thing that I’m actually weak at.
And never solely that—on the identical time, I additionally grew to become fairly insecure being in entrance of individuals. I keep in mind I used to really feel extremely sick even taking part in drums in entrance of church, which was solely 200 folks. However man, all morning my tummy can be hurting, and I simply couldn’t look ahead to it to be over.
And in order that’s why even the story of me moving into Skillet was fairly humorous.
The Life-Altering Audition for Skillet
I began the second 12 months of the Faculty of Worship. I used to be studying the bass as a result of I made a decision that I’d by no means play drums, you recognize, that factor as an adolescent. Then Skillet requested me to audition as a result of I used to be good pals with the sisters of Korey Cooper. And mainly what I didn’t know is that John Cooper didn’t need me to audition. He heard I used to be round 21 or so, and he was like, “That’s simply manner too younger.” And he’d auditioned some session musicians in Chicago that had all of the gear, years of touring expertise, simply skilled drummers. And the concept of taking some inexperienced woman from church that’s in all probability round 21 simply appeared like an excessive amount of of a problem. Nonetheless, his spouse Korey had a lady drummer earlier than, and she or he beloved to have a lady within the band. So she mainly made it so I may audition, and [John] was doing it to make his spouse glad.
Once they requested me to audition, I used to be simply so certain I wasn’t drummer that I truly stated no. I used to be like, There’s no manner. I can’t consider something extra scary than doing that. However I used to be praying about it, and I actually felt God communicate to me clearly that He wished me to check out for Skillet. And it was a type of issues the place I used to be so certain, 100% certain, it wouldn’t be to truly be a drummer as a result of I knew it couldn’t be that. I believed, Perhaps He’s going to do that to show me humility, or educate me some lifelong character lesson. However there’s no manner it’s going to truly be to be the drummer. I do know that I’m simply not good in any respect.
And I stepped into doing this audition with a coronary heart of, I do know I’ve obtained to be obedient to God, it doesn’t matter what. And I do know that He’s at all times obtained objective and issues, even when we don’t know what it’s.
So the audition swings round. I’ve been working in direction of it. And the evening earlier than the audition, I carried out my solo for my pals, however I used to be so nervous taking part in in entrance of two people who I couldn’t do it. My arms have been shaking, I couldn’t maintain the sticks correctly. So it was simply tremendous defeated, actually. I used to be like, Nicely, if I can’t do it in entrance of those two, then what am I pondering?
The audition swung across the subsequent day, and because the band got here in to observe me play. I performed the solo, I performed all of the tracks they’d requested me to arrange, and it went like weirdly flawlessly. And I used to be like, Oh no, I’m misrepresenting myself. They’re going to assume I’m this wonderful drummer, and I’m actually not.
So I secretly tried to sabotage myself within the interview afterwards. They have been asking me, “So, inform us a bit about your self.”
[And I was like,] “Nicely, you recognize, I don’t actually truly play the drums. I don’t actually like them. They make me nervous, they make me sick. I don’t by no means follow. And if I’m trustworthy, if I don’t get into this band, I don’t assume I’m ever going to play them once more. Nonetheless, if that is one thing that God has for me, I’ll give my 100% all to it.”
And it was simply actually humorous as a result of they requested me, “So, what are you going to be doing within the subsequent two weeks? We’ve got a second audition arising, and we’ll fly our supervisor in. And we have been curious if we wished you there, when would you be out there?”
And I used to be like , “The one day I’m busy is ‘blah de blah,’ as a result of that’s my birthday and I’ve plans. Apart from that, I can do no matter.”
And he seems to be at me and says, “Oh, you’re gonna be 22?”
And I stated, “Um, I’m going to be 18.”
I keep in mind his jaw simply dropping to the bottom. And he stared at me. And he’s like, “If I had a clue how previous you might be, I’d by no means have allow you to audition.”
After which he requested me how lengthy I’ve been taking part in for, and I used to be like, “Nicely, like, 4 and a half years.”
And he was like, “Oh my God. If I’d have identified any details about you, you’d by no means have had this audition.”
It was simply wonderful that all of it got here up after I’d already tried out, and God hid the correct data for the correct time.
And they also referred to as me a number of days later and informed me to come back over to their home. They usually informed me mainly, “Hey, we’re going to go along with you. We have to get you a drum set. We have to get you set as much as play.”
It took me 15 minutes or so to appreciate, Oh, they’re truly choosing me to be their drummer.
And I believe as a result of our hearts have been simply so related. They usually knew how a lot I simply need to dwell for Jesus, and I actually don’t thoughts the place He calls me. I believe they discovered that extra that mattered extra to them than me being the drummer with all of the expertise and all of the gear, the all the things you sort of need as knowledgeable. They have been prepared to place that on maintain, in a manner, and go for this 17-year-old, nearly 18-year-old drummer.
“I simply need to dwell for Jesus, and I actually don’t thoughts the place He calls me.” – Jen Ledger
It’s so bizarre and funky to look again on that ten years in the past now. And now I’ve toured the world with this band, and we’ve sung songs of hope in a number of the darkest locations.
“I’ve toured the world with this band, and we’ve sung songs of hope in a number of the darkest locations.” – Jen Ledger
And it’s so surreal and superior to see what He can do should you simply say sure. And I’m just about a very clear instance of God’s selecting to make use of your weaknesses to show His energy, you recognize.
I simply love how God can simply glorify Himself by means of something and anybody and the very factor you assume you’re the weakest in or, Absolutely this would be the one factor He doesn’t use in my life, finally ends up being the factor He’s used for ten years everywhere in the globe.
“I Am Depending on Him.”
One of many issues I sort of hate and love about my life is that God referred to as me to one thing that I’m always reminded how dependent I’m on Him.
“God referred to as me to one thing that I’m always reminded how dependent I’m on Him.” – Jen Ledger
I do know that naturally I’m sort of timid, and I naturally would somewhat another person do it as a result of I don’t love having all the eye on me, or simply another person may do it higher. , that’s how I at all times sort of are likely to really feel. And God says, “Yeah. However with me, you don’t must be afraid as a result of all the things you’re afraid of, if you’re afraid of failing or no matter it’s, I’m sturdy. You might be weak, however I’m sturdy, and I may also help you.”
Concern is the factor that at all times appears to come back again to me. And it was a number of years in the past that I abruptly began waking up within the evening with panic assaults. I’ve by no means been by means of something prefer it. I’ve had the traditional emotions I believe that everybody would have skilled of feeling not adequate, or feeling, That is too large, you recognize, too scary. Have another person do it.
However this was a brand new factor. I felt like God was chatting with me about doing my very own solo mission for some time. And I used to be waking up within the evening, questioning if I’ve not had sufficient religion and missed my calling. They have been actually bizarre darkish ideas of, If that is who you actually are and you are feeling this afraid at evening, then how may you ever assume that God would need to use you?
“If that is who you actually are and you are feeling this afraid at evening, then how may you ever assume that God would need to use you? “ – Jen Ledger
It was just like the enemy was making me really feel this concern and disgrace was a unclean secret, like, you possibly can’t be an individual of religion after which truly get up afraid. That’s a lie, you recognize? It was actually darkish. It was actually unhappy.
I used to be like waking up, and it was actually sort of like a a terror feeling. It wasn’t simply being afraid. , it was very a lot so one thing that will make you’re feeling defeated, made you’re feeling remoted, and it made you’re feeling like afraid to inform somebody too as a result of it was so embarrassing. It was simply actually actually not enjoyable season.
And I keep in mind coming house and at last speaking to folks and asking for assist. I’m like, “Hey, that is what’s happening. I’ve by no means been by means of something like this.”
And to start with, one, remembering that there’s a religious warfare and that the enemy does need to take you out. He desires to make you’re feeling alone. And he desires he desires to cease you from ever even making an attempt—that’s his purpose. That was eye-opening.
“There’s a religious warfare and that the enemy does need to take you out. He desires to make you’re feeling alone. And he desires he desires to cease you from ever even making an attempt—that’s his purpose.” – Jen Ledger
After which additionally simply studying that nobody can thwart the hand of God. If God wished me to not be in Skillet, I wouldn’t have been in Skillet. If God wished me to be throughout my solo profession 5 years in the past, I’d have been doing it. One of many issues that basically helped me was pondering of the story of Joseph, the place he was meant to be like second in command, however he went by means of years of jail earlier than. And if you’re sitting in a jail cell, you possibly can’t be upset at God as a result of God’s the one which had him within the jail cell. And if God wished him out of it, he would have been there.
So I believe simply remembering that nobody can thwart His hand. Should you’re meant to be doing one thing, you absolutely will.
I believe even by means of my concern and my darkest season, it was truly actually superior as a result of God realigned and corrected issues in my coronary heart that I didn’t notice I used to be pondering. It’s like He used these seasons to appropriate any mistaken pondering that I didn’t even know I had, like, Am I misunderstanding his love? Am I misunderstanding that?
I really feel like God confirmed me clearly by means of my concern. He let me say a few of my mistaken enthusiastic about Him, and what He would say is, “It’s not how I take advantage of you that I present how I really like you. My love for you alone is sufficient. As a result of My love alone is what defines you. Once you stand earlier than Me, it’s not what you’ve completed—it’s My love for you and being present in Me that’s your life.”
In order that was a wierd freedom delivered to me by means of each darkish season I’ve been by means of, or each off-season I’ve been by means of. It’s like God’s introduced such freedom from them, you need to select to hunt Him in these locations. And typically we don’t get why this stuff are happening and why this stuff really feel so painful. Popping out the opposite facet of it, I’m so grateful as a result of now I really feel safer in who my God is than I ever have.
I’m so grateful that He has confirmed me clearly that it’s not about my energy. It’s not about being the perfect one to be picked. It’s not about being the strongest. It’s not in regards to the bravest. This isn’t about what I’ve completed for Him.
It’s about the truth that our dwelling God chooses to interact with people. He doesn’t select to interact with angels to satisfy His functions. He desires to make use of us, and that so thrilling. And the truth that He loves us alone is a cause to be so free and glad within the morning.
“[God] doesn’t select to interact with angels to satisfy His functions. He desires to make use of us, and that so thrilling.” – Jen Ledger
I believe that’s the entire cause I wrote “Not Useless But.” It was nearly that struggle in opposition to concern. It simply kicks you whenever you’re down, and it it reminds you of all your disqualifications. It reminds you why you’re undeserving. And concern will cease you from ever making an attempt. And that’s precisely what “Not Useless But” is about. It’s about regardless of what number of occasions I face this, I’ll select to struggle it. And I received’t let it cease me from ever making an attempt, as a result of I’d somewhat try to fail than by no means attempt.
I used to be studying some research about how this technology has like the best proportion of recognized nervousness in younger folks and in our adults too. I’ll gladly discuss this if it helps different folks—empower them to struggle, and empower them to beat. And even when it’s simply empowering them to not surrender, like, Oh, I’ve nonetheless obtained the identical battle coming again. It’s two years later. I believed I’d handled that, and it’s come again once more. To cease you feeling that, like, I ought to by no means have even tried. No. No, it’s one thing you might need to struggle on and off for the remainder of your life, nevertheless it’s price it. It’s price it. And you’ll be victorious. You’ve simply obtained to not surrender.
I’ve acquired loads of messages on social media and folks telling me how they’ve struggled with the identical factor, whether or not it’s nervousness or concern, issues like that. I’m identical to, Oh Lord, thanks for that season if it was in a position to assist anybody like this.
“Let’s Be Individuals Who’re Unafraid to Be Courageous.”
God so sovereign and a lot larger than we all know. When God speaks, it merely is. Like, He breathes into mud and that’s us. That’s our life, that’s humankind. And the truth that Scripture is God-breathed and it’s to show us and prepare us and equips us for all the things—I used to be feeling challenged, like, That is one thing I must to study, to make the time for. And so about 4 years in the past about tremendous critical about in regards to the Phrase and finding out.
And you recognize what? The extra I study and the extra I study from the Phrase itself and the reality, the extra I really feel like I do know God. I simply really feel like He has introduced me a lot deeper than I ever would have imagined simply by means of Bible examine, which sounds so boring and it sounds possibly apparent. However man, it’s been like actually, actually thrilling journey.
Jesus Calling is one thing Korey Cooper truly delivered to me. And the factor that’s so particular and treasured about it’s it sort of removes all obstacles. Should you say, “Nicely, I don’t have time,” the factor that’s so superior about Jesus Calling is that it’s not going to take lengthy in any respect. It’s that small second between conferences, or [when] you don’t have an hour to spend in an in-depth examine. You possibly can spend a second on Jesus Calling to refocus and simply select to set your thoughts on issues above and sort of readjust.
And what I really like about Jesus Calling is also that it’s fantastically written, nevertheless it’s very sensible. It helps me to make connections between the Phrase and the way it truly applies whether or not it’s to my thought patterns or whether or not it’s to how I truly, virtually dwell there. It does loads of the connections for you and actually makes the Phrase relevant to your life into that very day. And that’s that’s why I actually adore it.
“[Jesus Calling is] very sensible. It helps me to make connections between the Phrase and the way it truly applies whether or not it’s to my thought patterns or whether or not it’s to how I truly, virtually dwell there.” – Jen Ledger
So right here’s a passage from Jesus Calling from December 21st that I sort of simply thought was excellent for all the things that we’ve talked about at present. And I hope that it will likely be inspiring for you guys too.
So, it’s December 21st:
My plan on your life is unfolding earlier than you. Typically the highway you might be touring appears blocked, or opens up so painfully slowly that you have to maintain your self again. Then, when the time is correct, the best way earlier than you instantly clears—by means of no effort of your individual. What you might have longed for and labored for I current to you freely, as a pure reward. You are feeling awed by the benefit with which I function on this planet, and also you glimpse My Energy and My Glory.
Don’t concern your weak spot, for it’s the stage on which My Energy and My Glory carry out most brilliantly. As you persist alongside the trail I’ve ready for you, relying on My energy to maintain you, anticipate to see miracles—and you’ll.
I really feel like that is the testimony of my life.
There’s been occasions the place it looks like I’m stood nonetheless. However then He does essentially the most intricate work on my coronary heart. After which there’s occasions the place He decides it’s the proper time and all the things falls into place with miraculous element. It’s like, Wow, that is increasingly more fascinating, the extra I see the main points that You have got lined up for me. It’s simply wonderful.
It’s okay to step and okay to simply get pleasure from stepping out with the Lord and trusting that He’s with you, and rejoicing in the truth that you’re not the strongest or the bravest or the perfect.
There is no such thing as a restrict to how nice He’s. Let’s be folks which might be unafraid—unafraid to be courageous and simply be full of religion in Him.
Narrator: To seek out out extra about Jen Ledger’s new solo album, please go to ledgerband.com.
Narrator: Subsequent time on the Jesus Calling Podcast, we discuss with Olympic ice skater, inspirational speaker gold medal champion Scott Hamilton. Scott shares about some hardships in his life, and what it actually means to complete first in God’s eyes:
Scott Hamilton: I did the chemo, however there was one thing gnawing at me the entire time and it was, you recognize, I needed to cease. And with out skating, I spotted that there was one thing within me that was actually empty. And I don’t know what that was. I simply felt like I wasn’t the individual I used to be alleged to be or that I wished to be. And so I simply determined to load up my automobile and transfer, simply go on an journey.